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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Dr. Ettinger for your response, and advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Dr. Ettinger for your response, and advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Marcus Ettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2009/09/25/dr-ettingers-biofilm-protocol-for-lyme-and-gut-pathogens/comment-page-1/#comment-131234</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elise,

Usually 44-66 days and yes it&#039;s very important to stay off mineral supplements, especially iron. If you have to take magnesium then try transdermal magnesium. It can be found by looking-up magnesium oil on Google. Try a combo of potassium citrate (orally) and rubbing on magnesium oil. Rub on and let sit for 1 minute and wipe off with a damp wash cloth. 

Sincerely,

Dr. Marcus Ettinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elise,</p>
<p>Usually 44-66 days and yes it&#8217;s very important to stay off mineral supplements, especially iron. If you have to take magnesium then try transdermal magnesium. It can be found by looking-up magnesium oil on Google. Try a combo of potassium citrate (orally) and rubbing on magnesium oil. Rub on and let sit for 1 minute and wipe off with a damp wash cloth. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Marcus Ettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2009/09/25/dr-ettingers-biofilm-protocol-for-lyme-and-gut-pathogens/comment-page-1/#comment-131233</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica,

The protocol you are on, if you have parasites (protozoa), should handle the problem. Having the correct diagnosis is very important though because the medication can potentially create negative GI symptoms. 

I don&#039;t know anything about your case so it&#039;s hard for me to comment more about your situation. 

Sincerely,

Dr. Marcus Ettinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica,</p>
<p>The protocol you are on, if you have parasites (protozoa), should handle the problem. Having the correct diagnosis is very important though because the medication can potentially create negative GI symptoms. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about your case so it&#8217;s hard for me to comment more about your situation. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Ettinger,

About how long does it take to eradicate biofilms (get rid of infection) on your protocol?

Is it absolutely neccessary to be off magnesium, calcium and iron? (which is why I ask how long to rid oneself of the biofilms). I have extreme insomnia and can not sleep more than a few hours without these supplements. 
My particular ailment involves the gut..loose stools after intravenous antibiotics/c-section, so I dont seem to be absorbing nutrients. 

Thank you kindly, 
Elise</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Ettinger,</p>
<p>About how long does it take to eradicate biofilms (get rid of infection) on your protocol?</p>
<p>Is it absolutely neccessary to be off magnesium, calcium and iron? (which is why I ask how long to rid oneself of the biofilms). I have extreme insomnia and can not sleep more than a few hours without these supplements.<br />
My particular ailment involves the gut..loose stools after intravenous antibiotics/c-section, so I dont seem to be absorbing nutrients. </p>
<p>Thank you kindly,<br />
Elise</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Doctor,

I have been taking Interfase Plus for 2 weeks now.  I am on a protocol to combat my possible parasites.  I think I may be having side effects from the Interfase as my parasite symptoms have been as bad or worse while on this regimen.  I am scared that I have been misdiagnosed, wondering if the protocol could be giving me such side effects which are the same as my worst symptoms of why I am being treated.

I am taking 2 Interfase/day, 4 Tinidizol, 4 Berberine, probiotics, Bentonite.  I have been looking all over the internet for some kind of answers.  I am scared that I will never get better.  I am unemployed and don&#039;t have the stamina to do what I need to do.

When I had my first round of protocol in December I had 2 weeks of feeling great and remembered what &quot;normal&quot; is for the first time in a year.  Now on the second round - higher dosage of Interfase.  I am sick as a dog - same as the original symptoms.

Please help with some kind of assurance.  Any comments?

Thank you!!!

Monica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Doctor,</p>
<p>I have been taking Interfase Plus for 2 weeks now.  I am on a protocol to combat my possible parasites.  I think I may be having side effects from the Interfase as my parasite symptoms have been as bad or worse while on this regimen.  I am scared that I have been misdiagnosed, wondering if the protocol could be giving me such side effects which are the same as my worst symptoms of why I am being treated.</p>
<p>I am taking 2 Interfase/day, 4 Tinidizol, 4 Berberine, probiotics, Bentonite.  I have been looking all over the internet for some kind of answers.  I am scared that I will never get better.  I am unemployed and don&#8217;t have the stamina to do what I need to do.</p>
<p>When I had my first round of protocol in December I had 2 weeks of feeling great and remembered what &#8220;normal&#8221; is for the first time in a year.  Now on the second round &#8211; higher dosage of Interfase.  I am sick as a dog &#8211; same as the original symptoms.</p>
<p>Please help with some kind of assurance.  Any comments?</p>
<p>Thank you!!!</p>
<p>Monica</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Marcus Ettinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

I don&#039;t know the amount of EDTA as it is not listed on the label. I do know it&#039;s a small amount.

No disrespect here but calcium loss is really a non-issue. The EDTA will be working predominately in the stomach and the loss will be in mcg&#039;s not grams. Also, the formation of kidney stones has more to do with magnesium deficiency then it will ever have to do with calcium deficiency. 

I will call you tomorrow after 1:00pm PST

Sincerely,

Dr. Marcus Ettinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the amount of EDTA as it is not listed on the label. I do know it&#8217;s a small amount.</p>
<p>No disrespect here but calcium loss is really a non-issue. The EDTA will be working predominately in the stomach and the loss will be in mcg&#8217;s not grams. Also, the formation of kidney stones has more to do with magnesium deficiency then it will ever have to do with calcium deficiency. </p>
<p>I will call you tomorrow after 1:00pm PST</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that does help - thanks

My last question is in regards to the EDTA in Interfase Plus (I&#039;m sure this has been beat to death)...

You mentioned it&#039;s a small amount of EDTA.  Do you have the exact amount?
Is there something we can do to safely replenish calcium levels while taking EDTA, without feeding more biofilms?
I worry about hypocalcium and kidney stones too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that does help &#8211; thanks</p>
<p>My last question is in regards to the EDTA in Interfase Plus (I&#8217;m sure this has been beat to death)&#8230;</p>
<p>You mentioned it&#8217;s a small amount of EDTA.  Do you have the exact amount?<br />
Is there something we can do to safely replenish calcium levels while taking EDTA, without feeding more biofilms?<br />
I worry about hypocalcium and kidney stones too</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Marcus Ettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2009/09/25/dr-ettingers-biofilm-protocol-for-lyme-and-gut-pathogens/comment-page-1/#comment-128837</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p align=&quot;justify&quot;&gt;Jason,

Cistus Tea seams to work only on oral biofilm. See link below. I personally like 
Biotene Gum or Biotene PBF Oral Rinse for reduction of oral biofilm. The 
advantage to Biotene is that it can be bought at Walmart, Walgreens or Rite Aid.

Effects of Cistus-tea on bacterial colonization and enzyme activities of the in 
situ pellicle - http://www.jodjournal.com/article/S0300-5712%2808%2900109-7/abstract

Plasmanex1: Plasmanex1 does not breakdown biofilm by itself but will assist in 
the process when used with other products and its not easy for the average 
consumer to locate. A more readily available, like product is either nattokinase 
or serrapeptase. Both decrease blood viscosity through reduction of fibrinogen 
just like Plasmanex1.

I hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Dr. Marcus Ettinger, B.Sc., D.C.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="justify">Jason,</p>
<p>Cistus Tea seams to work only on oral biofilm. See link below. I personally like<br />
Biotene Gum or Biotene PBF Oral Rinse for reduction of oral biofilm. The<br />
advantage to Biotene is that it can be bought at Walmart, Walgreens or Rite Aid.</p>
<p>Effects of Cistus-tea on bacterial colonization and enzyme activities of the in<br />
situ pellicle &#8211; <a href="http://www.jodjournal.com/article/S0300-5712%2808%2900109-7/abstract" rel="nofollow">http://www.jodjournal.com/article/S0300-5712%2808%2900109-7/abstract</a></p>
<p>Plasmanex1: Plasmanex1 does not breakdown biofilm by itself but will assist in<br />
the process when used with other products and its not easy for the average<br />
consumer to locate. A more readily available, like product is either nattokinase<br />
or serrapeptase. Both decrease blood viscosity through reduction of fibrinogen<br />
just like Plasmanex1.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dr. Marcus Ettinger, B.Sc., D.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 06:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff Doc.  I&#039;ve read through all of this and really appreciate it.

Have you heard of Cistus Tea or Plasmanex1?
Dr K in Wash St likes these for Biofilms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff Doc.  I&#8217;ve read through all of this and really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Have you heard of Cistus Tea or Plasmanex1?<br />
Dr K in Wash St likes these for Biofilms.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Marcus Ettinger</title>
		<link>http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2009/09/25/dr-ettingers-biofilm-protocol-for-lyme-and-gut-pathogens/comment-page-1/#comment-126929</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, Thank you and your are welcome.

Here is the clarification on Monolaurin. Right where I mention Monolaurin I have a kink to a post I wrote in August of 2010, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2010/08/16/antiviral-antibacterial-actions-of-monolaurin-and-lauric-acid/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Antiviral and Antibacterial Actions of Monolaurin and Lauric Acid&quot;&lt;/a&gt;. Please check that out. 

As for coconut oil, it just supplies the precursor ingredient in bulk. The body will work it&#039;s magic and make tons of wonderful monolaurin.

Lauricidin and Ecological Formulas Monolaurin work just as well in my experience. I used Monolaurin for years and now I&#039;m using Lauricidin, due to it being cheaper per dose. I&#039;m using 1 tsp 3x/day with most patients.  

About Nutricillin: The two most potent ingredients in Nutricillin are Lactoferrin and lysozyme. Lactoferrin being hands down the main active ingredient. The others play an important, synergistic role. As far as olive leaf extract goes, I&#039;m not quite sure where that fits in. It could be because of its antioxidant polyphenols and Oleuropein. I have read PubMed articles where olive leaf extract have been useful as a bactericidal compound but I have not read any credible data where it was tested as a compound used to breakdown biofilm. I&#039;m still a fan of OLE. Another not on Lactoferrin: &quot;azole&quot; resistant candida/fungal infections become treatable with the additio0n of lactoferrin. I recommend a combination of Nytsatin, Fluconazole, Nuticillin and monolaurin for systemic infections. I&#039;s a bomb and works every time.

Interfase and Interfase Plus can bot be used and still achieve a good result. I usually use the Plus version first and then switch to the regular version. The EDTA in the beginning helps to weaken the biofilm by removing the iron and calcium. There is just enough EDTA in there to work on the stomach but not enough to have any major systemic benefit, unless taken over an extended period of time. Those with chronic lung infections, Chlamydia pneumonia, Klebsiella pneumoniae or Pseudomonas aeruginosa, will benefit from long term use.

Regulat: I love Regulat and use it to rehabilitate the blood terrain. It is not so much a treatment as it is a foundation builder. It just makes everything else I give a patient work better. It&#039;s like mending unfertile soil. It can in some instances take up to two years to rahab soil to yield proper crops. With products like Regulat you cut that time down to weeks or a few months. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seaagri.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sea salt &lt;/a&gt; is anothe product I use for this task but in this case it&#039;s used as an electrolyte builder.

Ascorbic acid: At doses of just a gram or two a day should have not adverse effects on even the most sensitive digestive system. I don&#039;t like buffered because it will contain calcium or magnesium, which we want to avoid in excess.

Biofilm differences (the good, the bad, the ugly): As far as I have seen in treating hundreds of biofilm patients, biofilm is biofilm - period. Any addition I add is purely synergistic to the main protocol. Taking a broad-spectrum probiotic during the protocol will handle any disruption to the native bacterial colonies.

Sincerely,

Dr. Marcus Ettinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, Thank you and your are welcome.</p>
<p>Here is the clarification on Monolaurin. Right where I mention Monolaurin I have a kink to a post I wrote in August of 2010, <a href="http://www.advancedhealing.com/blog/2010/08/16/antiviral-antibacterial-actions-of-monolaurin-and-lauric-acid/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Antiviral and Antibacterial Actions of Monolaurin and Lauric Acid&#8221;</a>. Please check that out. </p>
<p>As for coconut oil, it just supplies the precursor ingredient in bulk. The body will work it&#8217;s magic and make tons of wonderful monolaurin.</p>
<p>Lauricidin and Ecological Formulas Monolaurin work just as well in my experience. I used Monolaurin for years and now I&#8217;m using Lauricidin, due to it being cheaper per dose. I&#8217;m using 1 tsp 3x/day with most patients.  </p>
<p>About Nutricillin: The two most potent ingredients in Nutricillin are Lactoferrin and lysozyme. Lactoferrin being hands down the main active ingredient. The others play an important, synergistic role. As far as olive leaf extract goes, I&#8217;m not quite sure where that fits in. It could be because of its antioxidant polyphenols and Oleuropein. I have read PubMed articles where olive leaf extract have been useful as a bactericidal compound but I have not read any credible data where it was tested as a compound used to breakdown biofilm. I&#8217;m still a fan of OLE. Another not on Lactoferrin: &#8220;azole&#8221; resistant candida/fungal infections become treatable with the additio0n of lactoferrin. I recommend a combination of Nytsatin, Fluconazole, Nuticillin and monolaurin for systemic infections. I&#8217;s a bomb and works every time.</p>
<p>Interfase and Interfase Plus can bot be used and still achieve a good result. I usually use the Plus version first and then switch to the regular version. The EDTA in the beginning helps to weaken the biofilm by removing the iron and calcium. There is just enough EDTA in there to work on the stomach but not enough to have any major systemic benefit, unless taken over an extended period of time. Those with chronic lung infections, Chlamydia pneumonia, Klebsiella pneumoniae or Pseudomonas aeruginosa, will benefit from long term use.</p>
<p>Regulat: I love Regulat and use it to rehabilitate the blood terrain. It is not so much a treatment as it is a foundation builder. It just makes everything else I give a patient work better. It&#8217;s like mending unfertile soil. It can in some instances take up to two years to rahab soil to yield proper crops. With products like Regulat you cut that time down to weeks or a few months. <a href="http://www.seaagri.com" rel="nofollow">Sea salt </a> is anothe product I use for this task but in this case it&#8217;s used as an electrolyte builder.</p>
<p>Ascorbic acid: At doses of just a gram or two a day should have not adverse effects on even the most sensitive digestive system. I don&#8217;t like buffered because it will contain calcium or magnesium, which we want to avoid in excess.</p>
<p>Biofilm differences (the good, the bad, the ugly): As far as I have seen in treating hundreds of biofilm patients, biofilm is biofilm &#8211; period. Any addition I add is purely synergistic to the main protocol. Taking a broad-spectrum probiotic during the protocol will handle any disruption to the native bacterial colonies.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Dr. Marcus Ettinger</p>
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